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Salem, Oregon (The Weekly Vice) -- Carrie Noe, a 19-year-old Salem Oregon woman was arrested Friday after police say she murdered her two-month-old son, Ian Noe.
According to Salem police, authorities responded Friday to a 911 call from a home near the 1000 block of Fabry Road Southeast to find an unresponsive child.
When paramedics arrived, they found Noe and her husband sitting on a sofa, holding their deceased child's body. Efforts to revive the 2-month-old were unsuccessful, according to Salem Police Lt. Steve Birr.
Carrie Noe allegedly told police that she was painting a room alone, when the child began crying. After about 15 minutes of crying, Noe told investigators she went into the baby's room frustrated, picked the child up out of his crib, shook him three times and then set him back into the crib in a forceful manner, according to the arrest affidavit.
Noe allegedly told investigators that after the child had been shaken, his body went limp and he began breathing in a labored manor. She allegedly did not call for help or check on the child again until her husband came home later that day. Noe's husband, has not been charged in the case.
Police arrested Noe on a charge of murder and booked her into the Marion County Jail where she is currently being held without bail.
During Noe's initial court appearance, she was described as calm with a slight frown as she answered the judge's questions. Her next appearance has been scheduled for Jan 9.
The Weekly Vice Opinion:
How does one let a child scream for 15 minutes, and then go in to shake the life out of him.....only to ignore him when his little body goes limp?
I have been holding this story back for a couple of days - wanting to make sure there was a case of death by abuse before posting it. Sadly enough, Noe's alleged admissions establish that to be the case here.
Letting a child die alone, as you walk off annoyed.... That's as cold blooded as any other murder in our book.
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Stupid bitch. This is one of the reasons I'm against teenagers having children. Children raising children...just doesn't work most of the time.
She'll make a nice prison bitch.
Yeah, usually they wanna keep living like a teen and a kid becomes an annoyance, instead of their focus. It's an accessory. But I don't get how you can walk off and leave a kid who obviously is struggling to breath or goes limp. I feel very sorry for the husband, who's now lost his whole family.
Why would anyone NOT know that shaking a baby is harmful in this day and age?
I feel so sad that poor child died alone, knowing his mother was angry.
Throw her to the lions.
tie her tubes.....
Carrie and I were really close..... she use to be the type of girl that couldnt watch gory movies... i cant believe she did this... this is a very horrible thing. I hope she ends up spending the rest of her life in prison!
Carrie and I also hung but i have a baby of my own and its not all about children raising children. Its her being a dumb bitch some one should shake her dead
This is a very sad situation. Calling her names is not going to change the circumstances at all. I do have to say that I had my first child at the age of sixteen and did have my own moments of frustration, yet I knew that walking away and taking a few minutes was better all the way around. I don't think that it is "babies having babies" that is the problem as much as it is a lack of education on how to parent that needs to be addressed. Learning to ask for help is the biggest challenge. Yes, I agree that she should pay for what she has done. Perhaps it would be a great idea to make parenting classes a mandatory part of pre-natal care....
Education my ass. Even wild animals know how to care for their young. Sounds like she was a stay at home mom....Married...Sounds like a spoiled bitch. Because she's stupid,hateful and selfish, she decided to kill the child. She had plenty of time to call an ambulance--but didn't. End of story.
Exactly. Whoever posted the above statement should post here more often to offset the whiny, excuse makers who keep perpetuating this nonsense
I honesty think that by using such hateful and insulting terms to describe your feelings about a situation all you are doing is showing your lack of intelligence. Not every person in the world knows how to be parents, and even if you do a little help to learn how to do a better job never hurt anyone. I understand that people are angry, I myself do not understand how a mother can harm her own child or any child for that matter, however the insults and profanity will not help anyone. Try to express your feelings using better adjectives.
P.S. and you know exactly what happened, how, were you there. No, you are taking your information from the media what a reliable source.... The fact is her baby is dead and she admitted to doing it. She needs to be punished. How do you propose we as a society can prevent this type of behavior in the future? Call names like stupid, hateful, selfish, Bitch and threaten to shake that person to death, or perhaps find a more intelligent way to handle it.
Anonymous, please begin using a name other than anonymous if you are going to post multiple times. this way we know which posts go together.
And to answer your statement, the information in this report did not come from the media.
Police reports are public record and court hearings are open to the public unless otherwise closed by the judge.
If you want to challenge something in this report, you had better come ready with the documents to back it up - because I certainly can.
I do not believe that I was challenging your information. I was responding to a posted comment by miss "Education my ass". People are very eager to shout insults, but are not so quick to suggest anything that may help to change these types of behavior in the future. Obviously this area is for those people who want to respond in a derogatory manner, it is obvious anything but that is not well accepted. I do not need to add a name to the comment, as my thoughts are not welcome and I will not be returning. Thanks
Anonymous - I don't suggest you use YOUR name, just use a made up name so the posts match.
Your comments are welcome and you make a fair point. People do tend to express anger at situations like this because a real person is gone now. A helpless child is gone and they don't get to express an opinion.
I know you'll be back to check on a response.. Please feel free to say whatever you like. Your opinion is just as valid as anyone else's.
It doesn't matter if she was 19yrs old or 90yrs old. The fact fact still remains, she picked up her tiny loveable precious baby boy and shook him in anger until he went limp. Then left him to die alone.
Every parent I know gets frustrated including myself, but there are other ways of handling those situations.
You don't need parenting classes to love and never want to hurt your child. That's something that should come naturally from your heart.
It's obvious this piece of shit didn't have a heart!
I have no sympathy for her whatsoever. She is now a murderer. I'm not going to "cry" for the criminal. Who cares what names she gets called?
All parents get frustrated with their children at some point. NO excuses for shaking a baby. 19yo is old enough to know that.
On top of that, after it was done she just left it there..didnt' even try to call for help. Throw the book at her.
I'm a young mother and some people were right it's not about babies raising babies its about being a mother. any women can give birth but it takes a real women to be a mother. carrie was the one of the nicest girls ive met. a very christian or so she claimed to be. its still hard to believe but my heart goes out to the baby and the father! I LOVE YOU JEFF
I only have one thing to say and that is that I'm very disheartened that the baby's picture is posted. This was such a heartbreaking loss and as he is the innocent victim in this case there should be more respect shown for him as well as the family.
Why? This baby was a person. You might want to bury and hide this child's memory, but that's just you
Anybody who kills their child deserves to be called whatever anybody feels like calling them. I'm sorry, it's way too late to be talking about education here. She obviously didn't learn education during sex ed class. Anonymous it seems like you have some built up issues with your own parents which is why you feel the need to stick up for this sucm.
What was the baby's cause of death specifically? I wish dumb cunts like this were sterilyzed.
I don't know this woman. What I do know is about Postpartum Depression. It is terrible. It creates insanity out of normally kind and loving women. Any one who would call her heartless and a cold blooded killer has no idea what they are talking about. Google "Postpartum Depression". see what it does to a person. If you see a woman suffering from it.Get her help. It is real! But for the Grace of God that could have been me about 4 years ago. I got help. I am so glad. But don't attack what you don't know....
OMG! this whole subject makes me SOOO mad and sad! I went to school with carrie forever. We were friends. Our senior year, we had a class together. She sat rite next to me. The entire year she had lots of different bfs, but would always be talking about Jeff, the baby's dad, and how bad she wanted to hook up with him. She did end up getting with him, obviously. But she got pregnant just to keep him..... It makes me SOOOOOOOOO mad that she did that to him and the baby! Jeff NEVER deserved that, neither did Ian! She was so psycho obsessed with Jeff, it was scary sometimes. Obviously she took everything toooooooooo far. She didn't even care about the baby, all she cared about was Jeff. I'm sorry Jeff!! You deserve SOOO much better hun!!!!
((((people from baker:::::: has ANYBODY heard from Jeff at all?!))))
An estimated 1,200 to 1,400 children are injured or killed by shaking annually in the United States, according to the National Center for Shaken Baby Syndrome.
In most cases, the person responsible later reports "the baby was crying and they became frustrated and lost control," said center spokeswoman Amy Wicks. When a baby is shaken, the brain may rotate in the skull, damaging brain tissue. In some cases, immature blood vessels feeding the brain can be torn, leading to bleeding. This can create pressure in the skull resulting in additional damage. In nonfatal cases, impaired breathing, seizures, hearing and sight damage and learning disabilities can occur.-- ANDREW STRICKLER
I have met Carrie Noe when I was held in an unlawful detainer as a material witness in a dv case. She is innocent.
I grew up with Carrie. Weeks before she shook her baby to death her best friends babie's father shook their daughter to death. The two babies were only about a month apart. I graduated with both of these girls and it pisses me off that this is happening. I feel bad for the girl who lost her daughter and i feel horrible for jeff. If you are not ready to have children then don't have sex.
To the person who posted april 10th- you don't know this girl! she might have said she was innocent.. but only trying to save her own ass.. Everybody knew she only prego for jeff... To keep him around... And after the baby came she hated him.. (if she was so proud of her kid, why wasn't her myspace plastered with pics of her newborn? or her facebook? no.. her myspace and facebook were plastered with provacative pics of herself.. trying to be sexy and maybe 2 pics of ian... every other teenage mom i know has like 500,000,000 pics of their kids on the first day...) don't get me wrong, i WAS friends with carrie... I know the girl personally, i've known her since we were little... but being locked up with a girl for just a little bit of time, and knowing her like i do, is a TOTALLY different thing.. she only wanted jeff.. she didn't give a shit about ian... i know this for a fact
This thread is going along alright, so I won't say much - but I think it's important to point out a major concern of authorities which I think some of you are skipping.
The biggest issue for them was not so much that Carrie Noe shook the child.
The bigger issue is that she didn't seek medical attention for HOURS. She let the child suffer and die.
If memory serves me correctly, it was Jeff who called the paramedics later in the afternoon when he got home. She sat on the couch waiting for paramedics not even wanting to touch the child.
I do remember one of the paramedics on the scene noted the bewildered look on his face as he held his dead daughter...
You really have to ignore a lot of details in order to come to a conclusion that she is innocent.
to whateva, i was friends with carrie too. trust me, i know all she wanted was jeff, and it disgusts me that ian meant nothing in comparison to him. I also know that a few weeks before the incident carrie told friends she no longer wanted to be a mom anymore and took off for a week or two before returning back to salem. if any of us had seen something like this coming, we would have tried to help her, despite how i dont feel like she ever deserved jeff or that beautiful baby ian. Jeff is a good guy with a big heart and i cant imaging the pain he feels everyday.
so dont say i dont know carrie, i did. i was surprised she went as far as killing ian and didnt call for help. but i have always thought of her as a selfish person who thought of no one but herself all the time.
and you are right about the myspace/facebook pictures. there are so few of ian and so many of her in slutty little outfits its disturbing.
I have read every single post on this up to this date....... I can not believe the things that are being said... I myself have known Carrie since the sixth grade.. Everyone that is bashing on her STOP! She honestly had Postpartum Depression!! Before this whole thing happened She would call me crying saying how she didn't want Ian. She felt like she had NO connection with him.. She also told me that she felt like she had to do everything.. She felt like she was on her own because when he would need a diaper change Jeff would never do it or when Ian needed to be fed he would be busy doing something. I also want to say that I am not against Jeff in anyway I am just stating what I heard from Carrie... I do not know for sure if that is how things were but that is how she felt. I told her soooo many times that she needed to go see someone who could help her! I also told her that she needed to express to Jeff how she felt or things would not get better. She told me then that she was going to her sisters to get some space and see if it would help. Obviously it didn't help.... I know she was SOOOOOOO wrong in doing what she did BUT I do not believe that she did it in her right mind.... Carrie was my best friend... At first when I heard about this I was soo LIVID!! I wrote her a NASTY letter and sent it to her.. I feel completely different after having time to think about the situation and knowing more about Postpartum Depression after doing research... What she did was WRONG, she owned up to it and now she doing the time for the crime she committed. She didn't slaughter her baby, she just did something very stupid when she wasn't in her right mind. I still think what happened was wrong so don't get me wrong but I think a lot of you guys need to step back and do the research before you just blow off at the mouth about her...
Here's the deal. If Carrie was not in her "right mind" she would not have gotten so much time in prison. She did have Postpartum Depression but she did not have the "psychosis" kind that can make an individual do "crazy" things. Trust me, there were detectives, lawyers and doctors investigating this situation and they know more about what happened than someone who believes information from a manipulative, deceitful and spoiled girl.
When are these losers gonna realize that shaking a baby will kill him or her?!!!!!
What in the fuck is wrong with the people saying that they think this girl should be locked away for life? She wasn't ready for a child and she was immature; if this had happened just two years prior, she would have been judged as a minor.
Does anyone honestly think that she is a threat to anyone? While she did need to be punished, being immature/stupid/spoiled/whatever at the age of 19 is something that a person can easily be rehabilitated from. Society gains nothing from using tax dollars to house/feed someone who could be contributing to society.
Anyone who thinks criminals should be "thrown to the lions" for no reason other than vengeance is fucked up in the head. It's a fact that harsher punishments don't reduce crime; all it does is satisfy the bloodlust of the masses.
I also have to laugh at the naivety of the people who believe that whatever punishment the courts dole out must be justified (because of the detectives and what not - haven't you seen law and order ???????). The US justice system frequently gives draconian punishments to people with mental health issues that could be addressed.
This post seems to be a place where some of the people that knew her and me personally can read and comment on what others are thinking. Some of you have said some very kind things about me and my heart goes out to you. Thank you all so much. As far as those of you who have made malicious attacks towards Carrie goes; you do not know. You were not there. You did not see what I saw. No person in their right mind could have possibly done what she did. No one was closer to this situation than I was, and I still don’t fully understand what was going on in her head. I miss my son every day. I would give everything to have him again. Carrie was not in her right mind, that much is certain. I would not go as far to diagnose her as PTSD, as she did not fit the definition of the disease. Those few of us that were very close to her can assure you that PTSD does not make sense for what she had. In a way, I am defending her to a certain extent, but I am not defending her actions. There is no excuse great enough to take the life of a child. Too many people make up their minds before looking at the situation from all sides. The entire situation is a tragedy and many are forever hurt. I may never forgive her for what she has done, but I do not attack her. Some posts on here from people completely unconnected from the situation think they have the solutions to these problems and immediately react in violence, “tie her tubes”, “feed her to the lions”… Violence begets violence my friends, and all you know is the few paragraphs you’ve read.
I feel for the people on here that knew her, and knew me, and possibly knew Ian. I hurt as you hurt, and I hope you all are doing well today and living life to the fullest.
Jeff
*Correction, PPD not PTSD. It's very late*
Jeff
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