Caitlin Buchecker's (I'm a slow learner) MySpace Profile
Caitlin Buchecker's MySpace Profile
Yeagertown, Pennsylvania (The Weekly Vice) -- Caitlin M. Buchecker, a 15 year old student at Indian Valley High School Lewistown, Pennsylvania was arrested after allegedly spiking her mother's milk with household cleaner.
According to police, Buchecker allegedly poisoned her mother, Joanne Giampa, by putting the household cleaner Oxi Clean in a container of milk. Giampa drank the milk, and then became seriously sick, requiring her to be transported to Lewistown Hospital for treatment.
Buchecker allegedly admitted to investigators that she put the cleaner into the milk, explaining to detectives that she was tired of living with her mother, according to the arrest affidavit. She also told police she was upset with her mother after her Internet priveleges were taken away after she reportedly ran away from home.
Authorities arrested the Yeagerstown teen at Indian Valley High School on Tuesday. Authorities charged her with two counts of felony aggravated assault, one count of simple assault and one count of recklessly endangering another person.
Police say the 15-year-old teen has been charged as an adult.
Buchecker has been booked into the Mifflin County Correction Facility in lieu of a $50,000 bond.
The Weekly Vice Opinion:
We've been distantly following the saga of this young girl's case. Cait has now been released from jail, but is by no means out of trouble.
Has Cait learned a damn thing after her arrest for poisoning her mother? You wouldn't know it from the vibe she puts out over on her new "everybody love me 'cuz I'm a floor ho" MySpace profile. (Her words, not mine).
Upon exiting the jail, she immediately set up shop resuming her "Monstar" persona, laced with photos of purple haired, half dressed mall rat friends who Cait refers to as her "fans".
Before going to jail she attacked those who loved her and praised those who seemed to pity her. Seems to us that she's pretty much picked right back up where she left off. The address has changed, but the attitude remains.
The old saying - those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it - seems sadly appropriate here. We hope this teenager gets some help before her attitude puts her in jail for decades instead of mere months.
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On the bright side, she doesn't have to live with Mom anymore.
Hopefully that's the case, unless she gets a bleeding heart judge who dumps her into foster care to parents who can't control her
Come on people, she's 15 years old. I am 57, but I can still remember being 15 and it was the most confusing, horrible time in my life. Granted, I didn't spike my mom's milk, but we have no idea what her life was like. The 15 year old brain is very different than an adult's which is why charging her as an adult is wrong. By the way, I'm sure she also took a lot of flak on her body, like your snide comment, which probably didn't help.
If and when it happens,I feel bad for the fool that decides to marry this female.
Well 57 year old anonymous, I was 15 years old once as well and I know no normal 15 year old things putting oxi-clean in someone's drink is even remotely okay.
She was trying to kill her mother and is darn lucky she's not being charged with attempted murder
Whoever the person 3 comments up is needs to have all sharp objects taken away.
Making excuses for people who try to kill others is not helping anyone.
And I have a lot more than snyde comments for YOU, but having a conversation with a dingbat apologist serves no point
"I am 57, but I can still remember being 15 and it was the most confusing, horrible time in my life."
So,you contracted syphilis at 15? Is that what you're saying?
To the anonymous 57-year-old: It is somewhat normal for teens to think "I wish she was dead" about their mothers (which is where you are coming from, I think) but it is not in any way normal to wish actual death upon them, much less to attempt to inflict death upon them.
This girl is a very serious danger to others. Poisoners have a very unique psychological profile, so conventional punishment will have no effect on her propensity to reoffend.
We could put her in prison for years, but the truth is that the criminal justice system is simply not equipped to rehabilitate this girl, and punishment alone will not stop her. She will not stop on her own, either. She needs very intensive and specific psychiatric treatment before she ends up killing someone. If she does not receive that treatment, she will do it again. By then, she may even have gotten smart enough to figure out how to get away with it.
This is therefore not a crime which can be overlooked or treated lightly due to tender age. The continuing danger to others is far too great. For that reason, I would not be at all opposed to her being sentenced to a locked psychiatric facility for young people, which is equipped to treat homicidal ideation, rather than prison.
I agree completely with the comment by ElfNinosMom. I didn't mean the girl should face no consequences for her action, just that what is done with her should make sense. Putting her in prison will make no sense. That would end up making her more violent and upon release, more likely to hurt someone. We will never reduce criminal violence if we continue to come from a "revenge" mindset.
I knew cait very well, and i can't believe she did that, I remember when she first told me she got pregnant. despite the police trying to demonize her, putting her in prison only is going to make her worse. prison doesn't fix anyone for the good. she needs help. and they need to acknowledge that
not to mention she went through alot,and don't demonize her. you guys don't know cait like i knew her
I was forced to delete a post because it went over the line. I dislike deleting any post, even if it's scathing... but there has to be some standards.
You can say the same things without filling the post with four letter words.
FREE CAIT, please post a moderated form of your comment.
None of you knew her, none of you knew about all the things she has been through. I'm not going to sit here and let people who don't know her, just come at her saying all this is her fault. Clearly it's not, if you knew half of the things she's been through you might have a slight bit of sympathy, but for now i'm sick of this biased bullshit. 'Jail' is for what people like to call second chances and for everyone to say all the wrong, where can SHE find the time to make up for it, and make everything alright?
Alright Anon - First things first. Who cares about your opinion when you don't even have the nerve to pick out a name. It takes a real winner to hide behind a name that doesn't even have any relevance.
Secondly, there is no justification for trying to murder someone. especially not the lame reason she gave to police "oooh my Internet access was taken away!"
I don't have to know a person, to know what they did was wrong. It takes a braizen, cold hearted person to want to murder anyone with chemicals.
So you choose. Either she's severely twisted in the head, or she's brain damaged for thinking she wouldn't possibly kill a person by pouring chemicals into their food. Twisted or brain damaged... which do you choose?
Oh, and one last thing:
People are free to come to any conclusion they want. You can't force your own biased views on others anymore than we can push our views on you.
I choose not to show my name for a reason, i don't think it's that big of a deal to turn my name into anonymous when it's listed right below. But it looks as though you're hardly acting mature enough to be a member on this site and take this seriously, with your name "Oxicleanqueen"
I have nothing left to say to you, i have my opinion and you have yours. But you're uneducated with any of the case and history, all you know is what's listed above. So i'd rather act my age, and not fight over the computer.
You have a good day, and have fun reading and criticizing everyone's case, when you know oh so little.
by the way
it's spelled
"Poisoning."
not poinsoning.
Anon, you keep insisting
no one knows anything. Are you not aware the police have already released details on all of this?
The girl has admitted to putting cleaner in the milk and why she did it. I have enough information to decide whether or not she's lost her mind.
Again, there is no reason to kill someone. NONE. Got that?
I believe that we can all agree that the actions taken by this lost 15 year old were irrational, deeply disturbing and extremely serious.
At this delicate and vulnerable age, children (which is what they are), do not thoroughly consider and contemplate the consequences for their behavior - they simply act - or act out, sometimes violently.
I see a desperate cry for help. My prayers go out to Cait and her Mom.
The discussion on here is a prime evidence of what is wrong with our society. People are coddled and when a person does something heinous we are told to not be heartless-look at in from their point of view. Excuses are made for the worst trash of society and victims are blamed.
This girl was 15. I've taken Psychology 101 and Developmental Psychology too. Yes, the teenaged brain functions differently. But that doesn't mean a teenager doesn't know right from wrong. There is no hope for this girl, she is a sociopath. Sociopaths cannot be rehabilitated. She feels like she is justified in what she did because her internet privileges were suspended and you guys are agreeing with her.
We are told everyday by the media and other cultural markers that we are victims of everything, even our own choices. It is time America grew up and took responsibility for our own actions-and time we held others accountable.
I got pregnant at fifteen, and regardless of circumstances, I was old enough to know right from wrong and be responsible for my own choices. I know a guy who put cleaner in his dad's drink when he was 16 or 17--guess what? At 34 he is still the same sociopath who blames all of his woes on everyone but himself.
This girl should be convicted of no less than attempted murder. Period. There is no room for people like her in the world in which MY children live.
to burbian:
Yeah, I saw that she is back online again. Man, ,my mom would have made "home" a far worse place than prison after what she did.
Cait always wanted to act older than her age and she was always obsessive about boys. Never would I think she'd do that to her mom though. Her Mom moved her to Y'town to keep her out of trouble. Ironic, huh.
Her Mom also has a myspace page where she gives all kinds of praise to Cait (prior to this. She was def loved, she was just tough to manage. She'd avoid curfew, she would gett grounded and her mom would feel bad and unground her, etc.I dont feel that given the circumstance, that she could have done anything differently other than beng more tough on Cait. She had been allowedto dress however she wanted, go out with older boys, had spent a ridiculous amount of time online on cam with boys, and I think er Mom had been too naive.
I hope the judge gets a hold of Cait and gets her help. Her Mom may also need to learn how to raise Cait under a stronger hand.
No doubt about it, the girl is twisted. A lot of people knew that, but never did anyone think she would do this
Caitlin just moved to Yeagertown a few months ago, so she wasnt born and bred there. She was always messed up. Her mom was way to lenient with her, she was going out with boys at a very young age, able to do whatever she wanted and got away with alot. She is 15, and from what I know [this section moderated by site admin]
As you can see by one of her few MySpace profiles, she obviously got her online privilges back stating on one that she "is in her natural Habitat fo now. Hatfield here I come. Hatfield is the place she was from (a Philly suburb)
If I were caitlins mom and if she is "home" for now, you should have went on and deleted all of her myspace pages. A lot can be taken from the things that have been said from her & her friend's comments on there. Many of her friends removed some of their comments from her pages in the past few days. She is a very sick little girl who very obviously is crying out for attention. She is very full of herself and thinks she's "badass".
I'm sure the cops were onto her myspace pages way before anyone realized it and tey were able to take info from there to use against her. She needs to be put away to get the treatment she needs. As a previous poster said, she wil end up being an adult, blaming everything she does on the system and the people who wronged her
Sorry you all, but this girl's not looking too "delicate" and "vulnerable" to me. That's the problem with some of you. You make excuses for the kid until she grows up into a messed up adult who ends of killing someone. This kid is dying for a parent to put a boot square in her arse
Let me be clear - in NO way am I making excuses for, or diminishing the severity of this girl's evil and cruel actions; but what happens next? Our tax dollars will, most likely now, grind her through the "system" - if and how she comes out on the other end is a coin-toss. Will she ever be a functional and contributing member of society? and if not, where do we "store" these unstable and dangerous individuals. There are no simple answers. It should have never gone this far. Growing up without boundaries, roots and stability in the home, young adults like her only grow into misguided, destructive adults which adds to the increasing strain on our society. Way too late for the "kick in the arse" now.
Barb,
This is a defective human being. There is no hope for her. I'd rather my tax dollars go to locking these individuals away for life than risk having them in the society where my children have to function. It is definitely money well spent.
This is not her Mom's fault. I agree parents do ruin children by being too lenient, but most spoiled children do not try to murder their parents. If this Mom is smart, she will let the girl go wherever the state sends her after the slap on the wrist she will get and start her life over.
ok i guess my voice wasn't heard well enough, and mr.vice i will try no to use any offensive language since it bothers your stupid rules and regulations and maybe even your laugh of a religion. look the point is, this is a 15 year old girl,I know her. and she is not a evil person,and how can you say it's not normal for anyone to want to kill someone,and you diary of a mad army wife, first of all your name is really contradictive and you sound like the biggest hypocrite ever, i mean you said normal people don't kill, but um your husband is in the army,therefore he kills people, oh wait i forgot he's a big strong army guy that the goverment hired to fix their problems because they can't get it right,so that makes it ok? you really make me want to puke, you try to sound so intelligent yet your logic is so irrelevant,and your behaviour is really crass. I bet you will google that word because you can't comprehend my logic. You are the reason, senator mccain didn't win the election, people don't want a president that believes in killing people oversea's and wasting tax dollars on a senseless and stupid war, and they don't want a president where you live in a country and can't speak your mind,that's why obama won, because he's much brighter, much younger,and i think his plan will overcome all this nonsense.
now i believe her actions can be justified, just because she used oxiclean to poison her mom does not mean she intended to kill her, if that were the case she would have got a gun and shot her or gave her like five sleeping pills in a drink. crushing them up into powder of course, but she didn't do that, not to mention, it's really easy to see that she didn't intend to murder her mom, because she went to school, she didn't try to run away from her problem. this will explain to all you illogical people with such small intelligence. your mind is so insignificant to my brilliant mind, i dare you to disagree with this. read on, dim thinkers.
This is a picture of a brain activated when they hate.
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2008/10/hatebrain.jpg
When you see somebody you hate, whether it's an evil ex or a mean colleague, your brain undergoes a rather unexpected transformation. A new study published in PLoS One today reveals that hatred isn't the blind, irrational emotion it might seem. In fact, hate activates the brain regions associated with higher reason and the ability to predict what other people will do.
British neuroscientists did fMRI brain scans of subjects while they looked at pictures of people they claimed to hate. As a baseline, they also showed them pictures of people they felt neutrally about. Not surprisingly, hatred activated the regions of the brain associated with aggression and the motor regions that would translate this aggression into action. And given that love often turns into hate, it's not too surprising that hatred also activates two brain regions, the putamen and the insula, associated with passionate, romantic love.
What is surprising is the degree to which hatred is associated with logic and planning. The researchers write in their paper:
What seems not to be in doubt is that this cortical zone involves the premotor cortex, a zone that has been implicated in the preparation of motor planning and it's execution. We hypothesize that the sight of a hated person mobilizes the motor system for the possibility of attack or defense. In addition, the involvement of the frontal pole consider to be critical in predicting the action of others, arguably an important feature when confronted by a hated person . . . it is more likely that in
the context of hate the hater may want to exercise judgment in calculating moves to harm, injure or otherwise extract revenge.
So basically, hating somebody heightens your judgment and your ability to assess what other people are likely to do next. The researchers note that in this way hatred is neurologically unlike love, which tends to deactivate judgment.
Semir Zeki, one of the authors, suggested that they are on the path to developing tools that might allow researchers to figure out how much somebody hates another person just by doing a brain scan. Somehow, he imagines this might be used in court:
Interestingly, the activity in some of these structures in response to viewing a hated face is proportional in strength to the declared intensity of hate, thus allowing the subjective state of hate to be objectively quantified. This finding may have legal implications in criminal cases, for example.
Given that hate crimes lead to tougher sentences many states, Zeki might well be right. If a court can prove that somebody committed an act of violence while under the influence of hate, that person might go to jail for a much longer time than they would otherwise.
p.s. Inconsistent humans,
please recycle.
I almost forgot,hey diary of a mad army wife, you just totally marked yourself with 3 years of bad karma for making this statement
"There is no room for people like her in the world in which MY children live." you basically are saying she deserves to die but in a nice way. that will be judged on your behalf when things go wrong for you and your family, if we continue to rely on a goverment and court system that justifies the criminals with acts of revenge,then we will never get nowhere in understanding true human emotion. you are so vague diary of a mad army wife, i hope you realize i have just crused you with the upmost of my logic,and there is no way you could deny my logic because deep inside that insecure heart is a girl who wish she never got pregnant at 15 and screwed up her life. at least what happened with cait's life isn't her own fault, so dream about that for a while. btw click on my name, it will take you to a site that will expand that low-thinking of what you call a brain(LMAO).
p.s. point proven
I agree with "my logic is undeniable...I think everyone should find something else to do rather than sitting here condemning a girl that we do not know, about a situation that we did not see and giving judgment that no one has the right to push off on anyone else. Maybe we should put her in the military where her actions would be praised.. ya right. Did anyone stop to think that maybe this girl was trying to get someones attention. I have treated many kids that had similar feelings as this girl and did or wanted to do just what she did... gave them a wake up call. This girl need treatment not to be locked away in a dark place like a science project gone wrong.
I lost my post the first time I wrote it so this is a brief rewrite.
Without mentioning names, someone here is posting multiple times under different names in an effort to make it appear "several" people agree with him/her.
Each post always has it's own i.p. signature.
Let's stick to one name, please.
MyLogic: contrary to your opinion, my posting guidelines are about as liberal as can be. How many passwords or captchas were you required to use to leave a comment? zip, nada, zero.
Google penalizes blogs who do not moderate at least a little. You are always free to create your own blogger account and provide a link to it in a post. There you can cuss up a storm if you like.
Cait is a sociopath. Her actions can not be justified as she attempted to cause serious harm to another human being. For those of you who think you "know" Cait and her home life, you don't. And FYI, Cait is not pregnant and never has been pregnant. Everyone can stop assuming what they think is right. Bottom line is she knows right from wrong and she will receive, hopefully proper, treatment and punishment for her actions.
Hey,"My Logic" and "Ellen" (one and the same)
You sound completely ignorant. Your thoughts have no clear progression or point.
The presidency has nothing to do with why this girl tried to murder her mother. You are a great example of people making excuses and blaming everything but the responsible party. The war also has nothing to do with this case. And, yes, there is a big difference between what the military does and what some sociopathic 15 year old girl does. As a matter of fact, my husband is a "big strong Army man" but he doesn't kill anyone-he is a medic and since OUR military sticks the the Geneva convention, medics are not allowed to carry weapons.
And what do you mean, she wasn't trying to kill her? You are pretty ignorant if you honestly believe that intentionally poisoning someone isn't attempted murder.
And just because you can google an article and cut and paste does not make you sound like an expert. Of course people's brain activity changes when they are angry. Most people don't end up poisoning the target of their hatred or anger. People who cannot control these impulses and emotions are a danger to society and need to be locked away.
You used the false logic of a personal attack against me instead of disproving any of what I said. That is a classical fallacy called Ad Hominem actually. You can google it and cut and paste to figure out what I am talking about. I didn't have to. I remember it from a writing class at Duke University.
Contrary to your completely off topic attack of my family and me, I don't regret anything I've done in my life. I'm not sorry I'm a mom-I'm not even sorry I was a teenage mom. I LOVE my life with my wonderful children and big strong Army man. Unlike this sociopath Cait, I never tried to blame my problems on my mom or anyone else.
I said people like her have no place in this world. I never said she should be killed. I said it is a good investment of my tax dollars to lock her away for life. I stand by those statements.
As for your "three years of bad luck" threat. Well, I don't believe in that, which means it has no power in my life. You, however are clearly condemned to a life of ignorance, puffing yourself up with borrowed words, making yourself feel like an intellectual by using only fallacies to support your claims and being unable to stay on point
My Logic,
Yes, it may be a free country, but this is my blog....and it isn't a democracy... If you're going to post here, you will follow the rules like everyone else.
Keep posting comments like the last one and I'll keep deleting them.
It's your choice. Either add something constructive or get put on ignore until you learn to communicate in a civil manner.
Aww, I want to see what he was going to say! Let him shoot his obnoxious mouth off. We can handle him!
I Think She Was Wrong For Trying To Kill Her Mother Yes But No One But God Can Judge Her So Lets See Here Its Not Happening To Any Of You,So Does That Give You The Right To Try And Judge Her NOBODYS Perfect And If You Think You Are Then Your Wrong You Need To Take A Step Back And Look At Your Own Lives Instead Of Everyone Esles
This Girl Has Real Issues Ive Known Her For A bit now n im sorry to say but she isnt all there in the head.. n with out being prosicuted for her action w.e it maybe.. she will just come right back out n do the same thing if not something more drastic she's got problems an i think she needs to talk to a specialist b4 they even THINK about releasing her.. n not just stop there i think they need to show her that she is just like everyone else no better n she has to take conciquences for her actions
To make the statement "We can't judge others," is a little naive and idealistic.
Our ability to make informed judgements is one thing that makes us uniquely human. It is PC to say you don't judge someone, but in reality if you don't, you are not working in your own self interests.
People SHOULD be judged by their actions. That is how individuals and societied survive. If you choose to "not judge" because you think that is mean or wrong or whatever, you are setting yourself up to be a victim.
Lori, I do look at my own life. I evaluate myself on a regular basis and I can say, with no hesitation, of all the mistakes I've made, I have NEVER done anything as bad as what this girl (or most people featured on this blog) did.
It isn't like we are speculating. She was arrested. She admitted it. And the reason she gave was not abuse or anything like that...it was that she was grounded from the internet. How can anyone try to justify that when she tried to kill her mother for a thing that would cause other teens to roll their eyes?
Cait is one of my closest friends, and i have been to almost every site about her and there has been mroe trash talking then anything. for those of you that dont even know her, go get a fucking life, and jack off or something. Cait has a very hard life that not everyone knows about. How about the fact she hate dbeing home, not becuase her mom was a bitch but becuase her mom brought home random guys every week and abused her? How about the fact she used to get locked in her room. And yes cait may cut herself and pop pills but who hasnt tried or know someone who hasnt tried, welcome to the real world. When people are upset they harm themselves. I know plenty of peopel that cut or pop pills, and yes cait has anger issues and has depression, so wouldnt you expect someone thats totally misarable and sick of being alive take charge and revolt. Stop with the shit talking becuase honestly, non of you shit talkers have room to talk. Oh one more thing, EVERYONE on myspace lies about theyre age. mine says im 100. But if you read her about me, it says shes 15 so the whole myspace crap how oh shesw a liar, it says on every one of her pages shes 15.There is always two sides of the story, who wrote her? Who tried to find out the other half, i know i did. so all of you that answered them no, fuck off, shes 15 years old, were confussed, and honestly were still trying to find out who we are, and dealing with school, and drama, adn all that other crap is enough let alone, newspaper articles and web papes crashing on her.
To "Kayci" and the rest of you that THINK/CLAIM you really know Cait or her mom. All of you only KNOW what Cait told you...not what you seen with your very own eyes.
Kayci, did you actually witness any one of those things you claim about Cait's behaviors or her mom's? As a matter of fact, you met Cait's mom ONCE...very briefly. From my recollection, her mother immediately didn't like you nor did she want you around her daughter. Perhaps you should tell the readers/commenters that YOUR mom sleeps with young men (YOUR male friends!), ANNNND also gets "high" with you and them! And yes, that was CONFIRMED by CAIT annnnnd one of your "friends" directly involved. That knowledge right there discredits ANYTHING you have to say about Cait's mother. You don't even know what a mother is supposed to be if your mom acts like a teenager herself. You and your mom are the ones that truly need to get a life Kaycilynne. Oh and, two sides to every story right? Isn't that what you stated? Did you or your mom ever verify the things Cait said to you with her mom? No, you didn't. So in reality, you're no better than anyone you're b*tching at on here and have NO ROOM to talk...so shut it.
To the rest of you. Yes, Cait went through an extremely difficult time period between the ages of 6-10. From that point on until the present, Cait's mom was NOT too lenient/naieve and did not permit her to date older boys. Cait is simply very smart and manipulative...which is how she got away with most of what she did. Believe me, when her mom would find out, Cait got grounded, lost her phone/internet priveledges, had her webcam removed from the house, and at one point even had to send her to her grandmothers for two weeks during last summer because Cait was having boys sneak in and out of her bedroom window in the middle of the night...they lived in a first floor condo at the time...a neighbor was the informant to her mother, and that's putting it mildly. That's only ONE example.
So really people, before you go alledging or assuming ANYTHING...get ALL facts first, then you can decide/debate.
This is interesting. No one here was even talking about this girl cutting herself, popping pills and some of the other things you listed. But now that you bring all of that out of the closet, it appears she is even more messed up in the head than was thought before you ran your mouth off.
Now if Cait was being abused - as you say - why didn't she bring any of that up with the police when they interviewed her? Hummm?
Why did she tell them she was upset because her Internet priveleges were taken away?
It's obvious that this mother has very little control over this girl, yet you really expect us to believe she was regularly abused? That's really hilarious. It's OBVIOUS that mother here had very little control over this girl.
It's obvious mom cut off her Internet because that was the one thing mom COULD control!
Cait didn't like being told no, and thus ran away... when she came back, mom took away her Internet priveleges and that's when she snapped ACCORDING TO HER OWN WORDS!
Last of all, there is a big difference between listing 100 on your myspace page vs. listing 19.
One makes it obvious you don't want your age shared. The other makes it obvious you're lying.
Go run your mouth to another audience. You aren't going to fool anyone here.
Kayci,
You're missing the very important FACT that the reason she gave for trying to kill her mom is being grounded from the internet--not being abused, not her mom's boyfriend--but that she wasn't allowed to do what she wanted to do.
i used to be good friends with cait and she was a good girl. she had a mom that was really messed up. her mom was the definition of a golddigger and had different boyfriends every week. her mom was very strict and made life for her very hard. i dont think what she did was good but she should not be tried as an adult. shes 15 but younger then that mentally.
Neutral Source:
okay so you know me, and gawd i wish you had the balls to come out and say your name instead of being a pussy about all of this.
ANd acutuallyi did met caits mom once and she didnt like me becuase if you are who i think you are, her mother thought i was related to an older boy cait had a crush on (you). MY MOTHER DOES NOT GET HIGH. my mother is an amazing mom who tried to take cait out of the fucked up home she lived in by letting cait stay with us for a night. Cait also talked to her mom about me, and cait explained to her mom how cait wanted me in her life and cait told me personally that her mom didnt mind me seeing her anymore, but she didnt trust us to have sleep overs. Cait and i got into a HUGE fight over an older boy and then after we found out he got her "pregnet" 4 times. We BOTH reliazed that this boy was leading both of us on, adn cait and i became friends once more. Yes we got into fights but i also stayed up late to talk to her on the phone when her mom was yelling at her. And the day i met Caits mom, she was yelling at cait screaming in her face. Cait told me everything her mom did to her, adn it wasnt just from teh ages 6-10. So for you, you need to shut up inless you know what YOUR talking about. I love cait with everything i have, shes such an amazing friend, shes smart, and makes me laugh my ass off. So you need to put your foot where your mouth is and shut your trap when YOU are the one that needs to ger thier facts stright.
To everyone else:
cait is a good kid, cait is ten times more beautiful then all theses pictures make her out to be, cait is funny and doesnt just limit her life to phone sex and webcam, cait is smart and would always help me with my spanish work. She needs slack, and all these sites talking crap on her, are just making her sitation worse.
much love.
OH! and use your real names if you so called know her, becuase in most cases ill know you, grow some balls so we know who were talking to.
Totally bewildered here. Am I the only one who see's what is going on? No one ever knows the whole truth. There is always 3 sides to a story; hers hers and the truth. I am sorry so many personal attacks are being thrown around here, not just about Cait but other people's parents? Obviously some people live in glass houses. The facts, and I do mean facts are that Cait has many problems like the rest of us. A parents job is to allow their children to make mistakes but take the necessary actions to make sure they learn from them. To nurture them and guide them to make them productive members of society. The human brain works in ways scientists still don't understand, so at times there is no reasonable explaination for one's actions, such as Cait's. I am not making an excuse for anyone. I do know for a FACT that Cait has come to me and told me of the abuse both mental and physical from her mother, saw the bruises and took her to the police and filed a police report with her. I do not know why this has not been presented in the media. But again the media displays what they want the public to hear which at times is not the whole story. I also called the police where Cait is located and reported this again because I feel an obligation to report the truth of what I personally know. Cait and her mother need help. Charging a 15 year old misguided child as an adult is wrong. Pstchiatric help is needed to help this child become a productive member of our society.
Bewildered, although we are NOT the media - I can tell you that we do not write what "we want to". We write based on what's presented in the arrest report. That arrest report, which does refer to Cait's initial interview, did not bring up abuse. It focused on the issues that detectives could confirm as well as Cait's reasoning behind her actions.
She told police why she ran away and she told police her reasons for adding chemicals to her mother's milk. Those reasons did not include physical abuse. She said she was tired of living with her mother, not that she was escaping abuse.
I have learned from countless prior cases to not vary far from the what the arrest report says.
Investigators know they'll receive calls from Cait's friends - offering other reasons for Caits actions, hoping it will justify what she did. But mere allegations without proof won't go very far in court. And it doesn't help Cait's case when she herself admitted her actions were in response to losing her Internet priveleges.
Now if Cait was abused, why wouldn't she have given the officers that excuse, instead of talking about the Internet?
First things first, a shout out to My_Logic_is_Undeniable for being a true "Warrior", by standing up for the defenseless and oppressed.
To Neutral Source I say, sounds like someone has been "bamboozled" and "buffaloed". For you young-uns that is "old slang" for being duped or confused about the truth.
To everyone else blasting this child for her actions, I say: "Assumption is the mother of all *#%@ ups and assuming usually makes an "ASS" out of everyone." So, until you have ALL the facts, DO NOT assume you know everything about anything.
And, last but not least, this mother and child need our prayers not "finger pointing".
Vice;
I can only assume the reason for her response was fear, confusion and shock. Maybe the reality of what she did hit her like a ton of bricks. Maybe the statement "being tired of living with her mom" should have raised some eyebrows? My question is why was she so tired of it? What is going on that would make you want to do such a thing to your mother? Problems from the age of 6? Come on? That is why I stated what I knew for fact, you don't always hear the whole story. This child obviously needs help. Maybe the statement of not wanting to live with her mother and "children and youth doesn't work" should have raised some questions. That was in the news & online in a video from a reporter from channel 8 I think. Those were her own words as well, but I don't see any mention of that. We are talking about a 15 year old confused, abused, mistreated, misguided child. Her mother as well must have had a difficult time in life to pass on these traits, don't you think? What good could come out of a 15 year old being charged as an adult? Do you think jail will turn this girls thoughts and habbits around? Will it show her the proper way that respectable citizens behave? Will she be able to learn and grow into a productive adult? Isn't that the goal here? It's quit clear that none of these values were instilled in her, for whatever reason. We as a society have an obligation to help our children. Children learn what they live. How do you think she became manipulative, deceitful and looking for attention from all the wrong people and in all the wrong places? Review it all, lying about her age, almost all kids do, not so bad, but when they chose to act out with sexual behaviors and whatnot, there needed to be an intervention. Goals needed to be set, accountablilty needed to be shown, respect needed to be present. Where was she getting any of this from? This child is crying out for help, not persecution.
Bewildered,
I can agree with most of your statement. No, I don't think tossing her in jail for years will help her in any way. She'll come out on the other side even MORE disassimilated from society, instead of more assimilated.
If she is ever to receive help, it would be most effective right now instead of years down the road.
On the other hand, I don't believe she should just be let out with a few hours of community service. Then she learns that she can pretty much get away with seriously harming others.
I am certain that the judge in the case will look really hard at something in the middle.
I do know a little about the Pennsylvania legal system, and those judges work very hard to try to turn kids around before they become adults.
What happens to Cait from here on out will depend on how cooperative Cait is with everyone handling her case.
If you want to help Cait.... The best thing you can do is to go visit her and plead with her to do everything the court is going to ask her to do.
Tell her to stop fighting them and being combative...
Tell her work towards earning the judge's confidence that this was a one time mistake and she'll work towards changes.
Whining and complaining about the past will NOT help Cait. The key is what Cait plans to do from here on out.
Trust me on this, nothing else matters more than what the judge thinks of Caits attitude and willingness to change. Nothing.
Vice; I couldn't agree with you more. We have written Cait and asked her to put us on her visitor list. I was not aware of her being combative. But again this girl has not been taught good judgement. You obviously have more inside information than I do. If there is somewhere I could check this out, please inform me. I agree that she needs strict, extremly supervised attention and guidance maybe like a boot camp where she'll have to learn accountability, responsability and making good choices in all situations that come her way. A place where she can learn how to handle herself in a way that is not only acceptable but commendable. I will do my best when and if we see her. For some reason or another this child was brought into my life. Being involved with her life as such, I can't and won't just let this go. It will help me show my child more of what happens in life the decisions we choose and how they affect us as personally and as a society. Always a lesson to learn. I am saddened by all this and pray it works out the best it can for all parties involved. I applaud your willingness to stick with the facts and the truth. We are dealing with a disturbed child that needs help and a mother who doesn't have the knowledge or the tools to help guide her daughter. Placing blame or fault has no end. It is heart breaking all around.Peace
Initially, she was uncooperative with police, but that may have changed. If not, hopefully it will.
I think what you're doing may be the key for Cait.
No offense to Cait's Mom, who I'm sure has been reading this forum, but I don't think Cait's mom is going to be the moral authority here that Cait can lean on for advice and good counsel.
I think another adult stepping forward to help may make a huge difference in how she responds.
She will not likely be returned to her mother's custody at any point from here on out... authorities will not usually return a child to an environment they believe the child will not recover in.
Foster parents usually aren't a big help either. You might contact your local Department of Child And Family service and let them know that you're an adult who wants to help. They may be open to seeing if your intervention can provide a little stability for her through this process.
Again, I don't think the judge is going to want to just toss her in jail - and I'm not even sure he/she will agree to try her as an adult. I think there's some room here to have an impact on her case.
But again, a lot rests on Cait's attitude. The judge will look harder at that than he/she will be looking at what actually happened.
The last few posts make a lot of sense. Hopefully this will all help her. I don't believe this girl is hopeless.
My post is to dorks like My_Logic who keeps on making up new screen names, as we're all going to be fooled as to what they're up to.
I think this blathering fool truly believes the babble that he/she keeps typing.
To think such a person is running around free doubles my worry about this case.
okay, well i strongly agree with EVERYTHING Bewildered has said, truely he/she has said evreything i wanted to. All i can say which ive said 549709437 times before, is shes a little girl, we make stupid mistakes, obvi cait needs help, not jail time, and love not hate. i mean alot of you are saying i dont want my children growing up in a place with such violence while all your doing is putting down a little girl that needs support. much love xoxox.
Kayci, might that be because bewildered is your mom? =)
Wow I really thought you people could actually get a life and stop worrying about someone else's.
If cait is such a monster like you make her out to be, why continue talking about the subject! It really shows how pathetic you are,and that's one thing that pisses me off about this country, we condem someone we don't even know because of how the media portrays them, like i said before, you guys didn't walk in that girl's shoe's, you sure as hell don't know her, you people remind me of the people that killed jesus.
I mean you keep going on about how she should be locked away for life and this and that when in all honesty, you guys should all be ashamed of yourselves, the way you all talk makes you look like a bunch of satan worshipper's,I mean give the girl a break, she's already locked up, probably the worst time in her life right now, and yet you guys want to keep going on about it, I bet if it was your kid, you wouldn't be saying the cruel thing's you've been saying, now would you? yeah I didn't think so...well once again my logic has crushed these pea's you guys call a brain, if you had any intelligence at all, you would let this girl be in charge of her own life, and you people don't care about her,so go find a new hobby.
she should rot in prison cause her fat ass should of never poisoned her mom.
WOW. YOU ALL NEED TO GET A LIFE RATHER THAN WATCHING REALITY T.V. JUST TO HAVE SOMETHING TO DO. OR SITTING ON THE INTERNET ARGUING ABOUT SOMEONE ELSE'S LIFE. DON'T YOU HAVE YOUR OWN? I'VE NEVER IN MY LIFE SEEN SO MANY ADULTS ACT SO CHILDISH IN MY LIFE! PERSONALLY I THINK THIS WHOLE WEBSITE IS NOTHING BUT DRAMA AND NEEDS TO BE DELETED! BUT THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION! OR FIND ANOTHER TOPIC TO TALK ABOUT! YOU ARE ALL WASTING TIME TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU OR SOME OF YOU IN THAT CASE! THIS SITE REALLY HONESTLY NEEDS TO HAVE IT'S SERVER D-DOSED!
Have a good day =]
WELL "CHRISTOPHER" WELCOME TO AMERICA AND IT'S CALLED "FREEDOM OF SPEECH" AND COMMENTS ARE NOT JUST COMING FROM ADULTS! SOME OF US SEE A BIGGER PICTURE THAN THE ONE THAT HAS BEEN PORTRAYED IN THE MEDIA AND MAYBE THIS WEBSITE CAN PRODUCE SOME PERTINENT INFORMATION THAT MAY HELP CAIT!
Soooo Christopher... what you are saying is.... it's okay for you to post your opinion, but everyone else just needs to shut up and go away right?
ehh not happenin'
Aunt Elizabeth,
First of all, reread the article, I reported that she was arrested at school on Tuesday. Bottom paragraph. That is what the police report stated and Im sticking to it. Also, it's ludicrous to think someone wouldn't be made sick after drinking poison. Maybe if you drink some poison some time, you can comment on how sick you feel. Until then, please don't downgrade someone else's experience simply because you are a combative former inlaw.
I very rarely remove a family member's comments. But I do not desire for this article to be turned into an assault on Cait's mother. Her mother is not the one being charged with a crime and you aren't teaching Cait a damn thing by blaming everyone.
A lot of people visiting this blog come from broken families, divorced families, abusive families.... and they aren't dumping oxi clean in their parent's food. There's a difference between rebellion and exacting physical revenge on your own parent.
Everyone has their faults, but mom did not break the law and she assumed custody for a reason. Your brother had some place to go, remember?
We could "shed" some light about Dad, as you and I both know where he's been - but this is not going to be an attack on him either.
If you'd like to repost your comment without attacking the parents, then please do.
Last of all, I do know how much oxi clean was placed into the milk. About a cap full. No, I don't believe Cait intended to murder her mother - or else she would be charged with attempted murder instead of simple assault.
I pretty much know what has happened in the past and what is going on even up through Cait's last court hearing. I could report those details, but there's a certain part of this case that should and will remain private.
Ok, so I just sat here and read allll of the things everyone had to say about this situation...and as a family member of Cait, I feel obligated to shed some light. I'd like to start off by saying my mother once told me "believe none of what you hear, and only half of what you see!" Think about that for a second, because 9 chances out of 10 things are never what they appear to be, and even our own eyes can decieve us.
For one, Cait was NOT arrested on Saturday as it states above. It was election day, which was TUESDAY! It also states that her mother became seriously sick which is a lie! Lets talk about the facts, did she put the substance in the milk...Yes do any of you know how much...No, therefor you can't begin to sit there and claim she was trying to KILL her mother. Now, before any of you get your panties in a bunch..I can promise you I am not condoning what she did by any means! She made a bad choice, one that could have caused serious damage but it didn't. She should get the help that she needs for what has happened, but she also deserves love, comfort, nuturing, support & guidance as we all do. Nobody deserves to be shunned and condemned due to a "bad choice" because we have all made them. I haven't been as involved in her life as I would have liked to have been. But due to the distance between us and the person her mother is, I couldn't give her all the things that she needed.
As for the pill popping, pregnancy claims, smoking, sneaking out...I don't know how much of any of these things is true & you probably don't either because this society has a problem with gossip & for whatever screwed up reason misery looooves company, so those of you that have trashed talked her obviously have some issues of your own to deal with and some insecurities of your own that the only thing you can think to do is put your nose where it doesn't belong instead of keeping it on your own face!
This is deeply hurting her family, how would you like it if it were your family member that people had such cruel things to talk about?
She is your typical teenager that has made stupid decisions along the way...one of which was worst than most of us!
Just to clarify..she has since spoken up about her problems to the appropriate people. Imagine being publicly arrested and hauled off to jail at 15, do you really think she was in the right frame of mind to give details on her upbringing right away? She told them prior to this incident that she didn't want to live with her mother..she begged to not be returned there, shouldn't that raise an eyebrow? The child did cry out for help and nobody would listen to her, hence the statement from her "child & youth don't help"
. I've never witenessed any physical abuse, but I believe the verbal abuse because I know how degrading her mother can be to allll those around her. She has the mindset that she's better than everyone and feels that the world owes her!
I am a mother, I know what it means to show your children love...real love, to put your own desires aside and theres first. What it means to teach your child respect and punishment but by way of love! It broke my heart the day she told me its not that bad where she is, because of all the healthy food she is eating, stating "its nice to see vegetables on my plate, there's actually vegetables"
How sad is that???
She has been forced to grow up too fast, in my opinion her mother has told her too much about her own past thinking it would help her and there are things that I would fight tooth and nail to keep from my children at that young age, because not every life experience needs to be shared, Caiti knew too much and learned too little. She missed out on a normal childhood, she has had to deal with alot. And again...I'm not saying she was right in her actions. She knows what she did was wrong she deserves help. And whoever said she is not cooperating is poorly mistaken. She has/is giving her full cooperation and will continue to push forward and get passed this. Because those of us that truly love Cait are going to be there for her & support her along the way and she knows it!
In closing, please stop the hate...and remember for every finger you point, you have 3 pointing back at you!
Now pray for her & her mother that they both get the help that they need. That the both learn from their mistakes & that they both evolve from what has transpired.
I wasn't blaming everyone or strictly on the attack of mom, I stated things that I have witnessed myself or heard straight fromt he horses mouth, but since it bothers you so much I removed it and reposted. I went on the attack to those that have such cruel things to say about Caiti! I opened my mouth up when others woldn't and stood up for the child....thats what she is a child!!! I never swore, and I strongly believe if you would reread some above post that others have said alot worse.
BTW Danny Vice, you have me mistaken for a member of "dads" side of the family. You obviously know my sister very well to know such details....thats right I said MY SISTER!! I had the balls to state my name, please get your accusations corrected before you go around pointing fingers at the wrong people.
Elizabeth, is half sister close enough?
I absolutely do not mind your opposing point of view.
You don't know this yet, but I am appalled that authorities chose to try Cait as an adult, and I have contacted a source or two - giving them my opinion of why this must be tried in juvenile court.
I want Cait to get help, I want the court system to help her and work with her. I want her to let go of the anger and do all she can to show the judge she is willing to be turned around.
Elizabeth, please feel free to contact me if you'd really like to know what I'm advocating for with this whole thing.
I do not think Cait is a bad person whatsoever - but she's got a LOT of anger built up and it's coming out in very intense ways. Ways that you might not even be aware of.
hey Danny Vice why so biased? are there not two sides to every story? why are you defendin mom and removin things said about mom but not doin the same for the child? are you tryin to say anger just comes out of nowhere? for every action there is a reaction. it's all good though because mom can't hide her part in this forever and it will all come out eventually. clearly I am not sayin what this child did is ok. she definitely needs help. all I am sayin is there seems to be a big cover up goin on.
Laser, This site focuses on the suspect and crime committed. It's purpose is not and will not become turning victims into suspects.
Mom has not been charged with a crime, so we aren't going to strip her naked and throw her out into the public square, simply because someone tried to put oxiclean in her food.
This goes for Cait's father as well - who most CERTAINLY has a long list of things that could be brought up.
I have actually heard from many of Cait's friends and family - and have a pretty good feel for the history of it. There's lots of blame to go around - but it all boils down to one thing.
What is Cait going to do from this moment on? What is she going to do to convince that judge that she can turn the corner on her problems.
The judge won't be interested in how many boyfriends her mother had. The judge isn't going to be interested in whether Cait's internet priveleges were taken away unfairly. The judge wants to know what Cait plans to do NOW.
Nothing else matters at the moment.
Those of you who have access to Cait had better realize that tearing down mom isn't going to get Cait where she needs to be for her own good. Looking back isn't going to make the path forward any clearer.
If you have 10 minutes to talk to Cait, then spend every single minute pleading with her to look ahead... letting go of her anger and doing every single thing the judge asks her to do...
Nothing else matters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNwyr_a-fLg
this **** is so fuckin fake u ppl r so gd stupid :) u kno that right?
I have to say that I was one of Cait's good friends. Her and I had a lot of good talks on the phone, as well as on the computer. I also spoke with her mother a couple of times. There are troubled kids out there, and we can't always blame eachother. We'd like to say that the mother was to blame, but at what point does the young lady take responsiblity for her own actions? Pointing the blame is not going to do anything. We need to stick to the solution, and not the problem. Certainly, it'd be gradifying if we knew who to blame so we could TRY and resolve the issue. But sometimes, it's past just resolving. I say that instead of saying what kind of problems her and her mother had, or what problems they shared, we pray for her and the family. It doesn't matter how many times we blame, or how many fingers we point, it's not going to fix what has already been done. I hope all is well with the family, certainly Cait and Joanne.
To the post above. I don't know what your point was, but being released does not mean she is not facing charges.
We are glad to say however that the case was transferred to another county's juvenile division, which is good news. She should never have been charged as an adult.
Dude omg this is funny Cait ur really messed up in the head ur so fucking dumb but oh well
This good for nothing trainwreck is out of jail now and has her own little blog, claiming she didn't do it. Noticed she's now made her criminal father her new hero. Yeah, the idiot who went to jail for 5 some odd years for drugs and is currently in a halfway house.
Cait, just for the record, I know exactly what happened. Although you are actively engaged in making everyone feel sorry for you, it isn't going to work, except on the weak minded pukes you refer to as your "fans". Are you for real?
You are a sick, twisted, spoiled freak. A heartless shell of what used to be a human being. Someone I used to think of as a friend.
Never again.
I'm curious who that is above my post. But you're right. Cait has decided that it's all her mother's fault. She hasn't and won't admit any responsibility other than "she made me do it" excuses.
It's amazing. barely out of jail and she's already on a full campaign to tear down her own mother. And for the dumb ass who keeps sticking up for her. You are truly a mindless little twirp who's parent's raised a retarded, gullible skid mark on the inside of Cait's panties. (which spend more time off than on)
Cait. Skip a meal.
everyone cait has always been crazy and her mom may of been a bitch but whos parent's arenta pain? i been there but i never once tought of hiting my parents. thats right cait ur FUCKING CRAZY!~!~!
just think, some poor sap might actually marry this girl one day. He better sleep with one eye open if he knows whats good for him. I somehow think good ol' Cait will get herself back into trouble again soon enough.
Her head is thick, her mouth is big and her capacity to learn is small.
Anyone else noticing that the "tone" takes a huge hit whenever 15 year olds comment? Radical defnsive friends and equally radical people who actively dislike this girl have turned this particular comment session into a very unintelligible post filled with curse words and abbreviations.
Kimberly B. I totally agree with you I had a very hard time following these posts, but I obviously got threw it. With quite a headache I must say. On another note, I'm glad to see that Cait has been transfered to juvinle court, although she obviously isn't helping her self with her new personal blog, I hope she finds peace, happiness, and a good psycotherapist. From what I read the girls gonna need one... :)
As far as Caitlin goes now a days, she has actually changed for the better. Does she still get mad? Yes but who doesn't? But if you ask her about a huge positive influence in her life then you hear her gladly tell you about me.
She's currently trying to become a productive member of society actually looking for a job. So all the negative comments that I have just read from years ago, proves that you think that people can not change.
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