December 13, 2007

Lori Drew - We Don't Believe You


Dardenne Prairie, Mo (The Weekly Vice) - There are times in a handful of cases when the needle on the B.S. meter stands straight up. When attorneys or officials in a case go so far in their rhetoric, you simply have to begin calling them out on their nonsense. The case of Megan Meier, the 13 year old teen who committed suicide after she was lured into a downward spiral, has reached such level.

We have a county prosecutor and a defense attorney who have gone on the record with statements that flat out rewrite history and previous statements. This flat out stinks of corruption that's increasingly becoming on par with the Duke Lacrosse Player's scandal.

If we were to believe that the statements Lori Drew is now making are truthful, and the police report she filed (above) in Nov. 2006 is now incorrect, then why shouldn't Lori Drew should be prosecuted for filing a false police report or charged with making a false statement? Why is she not being charged for obstruction of justice?

Lori Drew, through her attorney Jim Brisco,e has made the following statements:

"Everything, as far as Mrs. Drew knew, was that all the communication was nice and polite and there was no harassing going on. She did not create the MySpace account. She did not instruct anybody to create the MySpace account. She never made any communications through the MySpace account."

"She knew these girls were doing it and she didn't stop it. She wishes she did. If she could turn back the clock, that's the part she would do differently." told to TODAY's Matt Lauer

Well alright Lori - now that you've completely absolved yourself from the case in any way, shape or form, please explain how this squares with your previous statements. Why has your statement changed from when you were on the attack against the Meier family instead of defending yourself.

See, now everyone else is to blame besides you. The officer who took your statement is a liar. Your daughter is to blame. Your employee is to blame. The Meier family is to blame. Yes Lori, everyone is to blame besides you.

We have a long memory Ms. Drew. We aren't fools. We understand why your statements were different when you were attacking the Meier family. We understand why you now wish to play the victim.

But when it all comes down to it, we simply don't believe you. We'll take the officer's account of what you said above what your attorney says. He was not being paid to defend you and/or boost your public perception standings.

Jack Banas, we are calling for charges in this case one way or another.

Either the women did stalk this child, or she made knowingly false statements to the police prior to the surfacing of this report.

You cannot absolve this woman of complete wrong doing on both sides of the fence. Pick a side or step down and let someone take over who can. Too many admissions have been publicly made for you to continue to hide under your desk.

Danny Vice
http://weeklyvice.blogspot.com

10 comments:

Mama Fox said...

Don't forget that a neighbor said that Lori called everyone involved in the account to keep their mouths shut about it,after Lori had deleted the Josh account.

Now why would a neighbor,who also said her child was in on it posting just one message,say that if it wasn't true.I can't see any parent that would come forward saying that if their own child was involved in it,even with just sending one message.

Pygmalion said...

That same mother that mama fox mentions, also said that her daughter told her that Lori and HER daughter had "laughed" about the fake MySpace and had said they wanted to "mess with" Megan. Doesn't sound like the revised history, either, does it?

Great essay, Vice. I also wonder where the common sense is here. Actually, though, I feel like Lori was more on the defense when she made the first statement (psychologically speaking) - by which I mean, she was in an emotional shock at the Meiers' reaction (foosball table whacking). I think she's such a nut that she thought she could totally get away with all this, with no consequences whatsoever. In that sense, I think the foosball incident served a larger purpose than just letting the Meiers blow off some steam - it let them shock her into a sort of confession. Goody goody!

I too trust the initial police report more than her lawyer's version (no brainer). Police are trained to take statements accurately. Yes, they might get a word or two wrong, but they generally get the gist of things correct.

On the other hand, one wonders about those in charge of things these days (i.e., Banas, et al.). It's similar to the Drew Peterson case, in my mind. It seems, just like Lori Drew is "connected" in Dard. Prairie, Peterson was a well-liked cop. I mean, why didn't they investigate his 3rd wife's death? How did they think she died? That she decided to beat herself up one day and then drown herself in the bathtub? Ludicrous!

Let's hope sanity will prevail, or at least a civil trial will take place to hold Lori Drew accountable. Even if her lawyer's version is true, there's no way what she did was normal or right. And, let's let a civil jury decide which version they believe.

FIGHTER2 said...

The debate over the fate of Lori Drew and getting justice for Megan Meier rages on. Bloggers have taken up the cause, despite what media apologists like Fox does to us or other bloggers.

In reference to one of our earlier posts "DO THEY EVER ADMIT THEY LIED OR TWISTED THE FACTS?" now comes Lori Drew & company.

Doesn't her note to the Meier family sound like a lot of schizophasia (aka Word Salad) to you? You know what that is: the kind of stuff a cyberpath says to get themselves out of the hole they have dug for themselves? Or does it sound like a whole pile of blame shifting?

Also sounds like the Drews' were attempting to do this:

People who are engaged in defending their internal grandiosity may become adept at giving ostensible apologies that self-justifications. Narcissistically driven people do not seem to understand that saying expression of empathy with the injured party irrespective of whether the hurt was intentional or avoidable.

A related substitute for apologizing is the practice of explaining. Unless the listener is particularly sensitive, an explanation can sound remarkably like an apology.


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Compare Drew's words & behavior to our other predators or perps. Please. Then make up your mind

Is that an apology? Of any sort? Sounds like the cyberpath's favorite: HOW TO NOT APOLOGIZE WHEN YOU HAVE SERIOUSLY F**KED UP.

Many people are saying Mrs. Drew is a sociopath or at the least a destructive narcissist. (two incurable personality disorders along the same spectrum) We aren't doctors. But we can find some of the criteria out there for identifying someone with Destructive Narcissistic Pattern (from Joann Ashmun):

Narcissists lack a mature conscience and seem to be restrained only by fear of being punished or of damaging their reputations -- though, again, this can be obscure to casual observation if you don't know what they think their reputations are, and what they believe others think of them may be way out of touch with reality. Their moral intelligence is about at the level of a bright five- or six-year-old; the only rules they recognize are things that have been specifically required, permitted, prohibited, or disapproved of by authority figures they know personally. Anyhow, narcissists can't be counted on not to do something just because it's wrong, illegal, or will hurt someone, as long as they think that they can get away with it or that you can't stop them or punish them (i.e., they don't care what you think unless they're afraid of you).

-- If you're like me, you get into disputes with narcissists over their casual dishonesty and cruelty to other people

Trying to reform narcissists by reasoning with them or by appealing to their better nature is about as effective as spitting in the ocean. What you see is what you get: they have no better nature. The fundamental problem here is that narcissists lack empathy.

-- Lacking empathy is a profound disturbance to the narcissist's thinking (cognition) and feeling (affectivity). Even when very intelligent, narcissists can't reason well. One I've worked with closely does something I characterize as "analysis by eggbeater." They don't understand the meaning of what people say and they don't grasp the meaning of the written word either -- because so much of the meaning of anything we say depends on context and affect, narcissists (lacking empathy and thus lacking both context and affect) hear only the words. (Discussions with narcissists can be really weird and disconcerting; they seem to think that using some of the same words means that they are following a line of conversation or reasoning. Thus, they will go off on tangents and irrelevancies, apparently in the blithe delusion that they understand what others are talking about.) And, frankly, they don't hear all the words, either. They can pay attention only to stuff that has them in it. This is not merely a bad habit -- it's a cognitive deficiency. Narcissists pay attention only to themselves and stuff that affects them personally. However, since they don't know what other people are doing, narcissists can't judge what will affect them personally and seem never to learn that when they cause trouble they will get trouble back. They won't take other people's feelings into consideration and so they overlook the fact that other people will react with feeling when abused or exploited and that most people get really pissed off by being lied to or lied about.

-- Narcissists are (a) extremely sensitive to personal criticism and (b) extremely critical of other people.

They see themselves as perfect or superior or infallible, next to god-like (if not actually divine, then sitting on the right hand of God) -- or else they are worthless. There's no middle ground of ordinary normal humanity for narcissists. They can't tolerate the least disagreement. In fact, if you say, "Please don't do that again -- it hurts," narcissists will turn around and do it again harder to prove that they were right the first time; their reasoning seems to be something like "I am a good person and can do no wrong; therefore, I didn't hurt you and you are lying about it now..." -- sorry, folks, I get lost after that. Anyhow, narcissists are habitually cruel in little ways, as well as big ones, because they're paying attention to their fantasy and not to you, but the bruises on you are REAL, not in your imagination. Thus, no matter how gently you suggest that they might do better to change their ways or get some help, they will react in one of two equally horrible ways: they will attack or they will withdraw. Be wary of wandering into this dragon's cave -- narcissists will say ANYTHING, they will trash anyone in their own self-justification, and then they will expect the immediate restoration of the status quo. They will attack you (sometimes physically) and spew a load of bile, insult, abuse, contempt, threats, etc., and then -- well, it's kind of like they had indigestion and the vicious tirade worked like a burp: "There. Now I feel better. Where were we?" They feel better, so they expect you to feel better, too. They will say you are nothing, worthless, and turn around immediately and say that they love you. When you object to this kind of treatment, they will say, "You just have to accept me the way I am. (God made me this way, so God loves me even if you are too stupid to understand how special I am.)" Accepting them as they are (and staying away from them entirely) is excellent advice.... They can't see that they have a problem; it's always somebody else who has the problem and needs to change. Therapies work at all only when the individual wants to change and, though narcissists hate their real selves, they don't want to change -- they want the world to change. And they criticize, gripe, and complain about almost everything and almost everyone almost all the time. There are usually a favored few whom narcissists regard as absolutely above reproach, even for egregious misconduct or actual crime, and about whom they won't brook the slightest criticism. These are people the narcissists are terrified of, though they'll tell you that what they feel is love and respect; apparently they don't know the difference between fear and love.

Narcissists feel entitled to whatever they can take. They expect privileges and indulgences, and they also feel entitled to exploit other people without any trace of reciprocation.

And more on DEFLECTING BLAME (click here to read)

One more:

Narcissists almost make a career out of being victims.

So perhaps the Drews do have a fulfilling life ahead them. Because Megan Meier doesn't.

Briscoe's latest statment from Lori Drew? Sounds like ALL of our cyberpaths!! damaging their reputation! You mean: their fabricated reputation which everyone sees through now. Didn't Mrs. Drew admit in her statement to police, admit to helping her daughter create the Josh Evans MySpace account and that mean things were said? Now she didn't? Are we missing something here? Danny, looks like you caught it too. Sounds like THIS (click here)

If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...

EOPC continues to urge you to CLICK HERE (scroll to the bottom of this post for the pertinent information) and please continue writing the legal authorities to reopen this case and DO THE RIGHT THING for Megan and her grieving family. If the media and is continuing to defend Mrs. Drew & the law continue ducking any responsibility, its the least we can do for the Meier family.

Write Jack Banas and ask the questions Danny asked. Find out if he EVER talked to the Meier family, because it seems he only spoke to the Drews.

Jack Banas, Prosecuting Attorney (who refuses to file charges and talk to the Meier famiy directly!)
Courts Administration Building
Room 601
300 North Second Street
St. Charles, MO 63301

It seems that whole area is in the Drew's pocket for some reason. And it stinks.

Diana said...

Well said.

Plus, let's say that pigs are flying and her second story is correct. She claims to have monitored the "Josh" site. She, as an adult, still saw the harrassment.

Sadly, I don't think that any charges will ever be filed.

Danny Vice said...

If charges are not filed, then we'd be doing well to let our politicians know that granting a pass to this kind of activity won't bode well for re-election options. This includes the county prosecutor or attorney general positions.

Like in many other issues, sometimes our vote is the only weapon we have.

FIGHTER2 said...

Probably by the media painting us as a "cyber mob" we've been discredited so now the law can sit back and let people like Tina Meier stew in unresolved issues.

Just disgusting.

FIGHTER2 said...

Just one more comment.

From Crackdown on Child Pornography:

Cybercrime, the majority of which involves child pornography, is now the FBI’s third-highest priority, behind counterterrorism and counterintelligence.

So where are they on this CYBERCRIME case?

Anonymous said...

Jack Banas just wants this to go away. His inaction makes this worse for the Meiers daily. Let's hope he loses his job. The St. Louis-Post Dispatch continues to run stories about this--it is the local paper for the area. Leaving comments there helps keep the story alive in O'Fallon--so get busy!

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Anonymous said...

After reading the police report, I have to say this woman sounds like trash. Pure and utter trash. She can't even take responsibility for the actions she seems to have no problem confessing to. And if I'd been Megan's mother, that woman wouldn't have left the funeral in one piece, after daring to show herself. And don't even get me started about the Thanksgiving incident.

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